Whether it’s shock rock or horror punk you want, your dose of Alice Cooper anthems and Misfits melodies both come in the form of Wednesday 13, who will be unleashing his latest serving of hell through the form of his seventh full length record entitled Condolences in June. Chatting to Mr. Motherfucker himself, Wednesday 13 had a fair amount of things to describe on the conjuring of Condolences, as well as looking back on the experiences as he’s gotten older.

“It was completely and totally different than what I’m used to doing, like what I’ve done in the past” he begins. “We basically, took all of last summer off from touring and just sat down in a room and started writing all these songs together, as a band, as opposed to when I would to pass demos to them back and forth through the internet. This time, we were in a room together. So, that was a completely different atmosphere and vibe that changed everything up for the better. We spent three weeks writing all the music for the record, and then about a month writing the lyrics and our guitarist would write some more additional stuff, and then we spent another month just recording the album. So, it was about three months all together, which is longer than anything else I’ve ever worked on.


Back in 2010, when Murderdolls were still going at it, the band had producer Chris Harris, otherwise known by his alias as Zeuss help produce their Women & Children Last LP. Seven years later, Wednesday managed to have his wish granted by asking Zeuss to help produce, mix and master Condolences. According to Wednesday, it was “amazing and so worth the wait”.

“Zeuss and I have been friends for years and always keep in touch with each other. We always mention “hey, if we ever get a chance to work together again, we should”, and when it came to thinking about recording a new record, I knew I wanted to do something different, because I had been doing the same for all these years, and it all started to become stale to me. So, I wanted to use a producer who could get the sounds that I wanted, so I got in touch with Zeuss, and asked if he was available. Luckily, his schedule was free and we worked it out and got the biggest and best sounding Wednesday 13 record, in my opinion. So, we’re totally happy with it, and it was just awesome to work with him. He brought a lot to the table, and it was cool to finally step back for me and not be the main guy steering the ship at all times.


Listening to Condolences, fans can expect plenty of differences between this and the last few full lengths that Wednesday 13 and co. had been putting out for the last ten plus years. From Wednesday’s point of view, there isn’t a particular track he believe that stands out from the rest, and that they’re all on par with each other’s quality.

“It’s hard to pick a favourite, and it feels like it changes all the time, now. I’m really happy with everything on the record. We didn’t put anything on the record we didn’t like, it was all songs that we all liked. The title track “Condolences” is one of my favourites, and the last track “Death Infinity” is another. They’re just two really different, dark songs and I’m just happy with the atmosphere and vibe that we captured on those songs, because they sound like a soundtrack to a movie or something. It was also something that was able to give me goosebumps, too. So, I knew when we play those tracks back, I knew they were something special.


Some people can expect the regular type of big hit anthems from Wednesday 13, but if more were to listen to his music, they would find an extensive selection of songs that sound much different from each other. That being said, it’s all thanks to the open mindedness that lingers around his mind that helps him incarnate more diverse songs. Especially with the help and thanks of some of his biggest idols that helped shape him into the artist we see him as to this day.

“It just gives more stuff to play with. If I stuck with the rules that I played with when I first started this whole thing, I’d feel like I put out the same record every time over and over again. For me, I’ve always like artists that constantly evolved and changed. That’s why I always liked David Bowie and Alice Cooper, because they were never the same. Alice always changed sound for every era that he did, and Bowie was constantly reinventing himself. I always idolised those guys and looked up to them, and that’s how I always did my own music and shows in that same spirit. I think a lot of people like to hear a band that plays the same stuff over and over again, but for me, I like hearing bands grow and experiment with different things. It might not always work for them, but I like a band that tries that.


Wednesday 13’s previous LP Monsters of the Universe stands as his first conceptual album. While he doesn’t particularly see a concept within the stems of Condolences, the theme of it is much more transparent to those who adapt to the record. With a title like Condolences, there’s obviously a lot of weight in the name, musically or not.

“I don’t really think there’s a concept, but there’s definitely a theme that runs along in this record and the theme is death. Not every single song is about that, but it would just seem that when I would step back to listen to the record, I’d be like “Whoa, just about every song is around that topic”. You know, like being the victim or being the killer. Like, the song “Good Riddance” is about the death of relationships. It’s just themed in death. In a conceptual way, it was loosely like that, I guess.


Many familiar with the monikers that Wednesday 13 comes up with, would understand that he likes to play with puns for the songs and the album names. However, while Wednesday kept the title simple this time, there was still plenty of significance in the term itself.

“In the past, most of my titles have been play on words or something like that, and that’s always showed my sense of humour. The sense of humour is still there but, for this record, I wanted to change it up and do something different. When I came up with the title Condolences, I thought it was such a powerful word. When you hear that word, you know what it means and it just means something bad. I hadn’t heard anyone use that in a title, so it basically, just created the whole vibe for the record. When you see this new Wednesday 13 album in a store, you look at it and see the title and cover, you don’t know what it is right away.


Twenty-five years on since he made his debut into the underground scene, Wednesday 13 has made a big name out of himself as a shock rocker and a horror punk icon to heavy music. With the term of being labelled in the horror punk department, how exactly does he see the title on himself?

“It doesn’t hurt to be recognised as something like that. The horror punk thing is something I’ve been tagged along with for a long time, and that’s awesome. Because, when I started doing that kind of music, I don’t think it had a title at the time. I started hearing it later on, and I was like “Ah, okay”, that kind of thing. And the whole shock rock thing, I always wear all my heroes on my sleeves. I grew up on Mötley Crüe, Twisted Sister, Alice Cooper, W.A.S.P., and those bands influenced me, so I just carried that torch in my own way. So, as long as people recognise that and have a bit of worthwhile career of doing it, that’s really all that matters.”

As Wednesday 13 has now reached the age of forty, he’s been able to treat it honourably, as it has been able to make him look back on everything the man has been able to achieve from the moment he started Frankenstein Drag Queens from Planet 13 up to his most recent works.

“It’s really cool to look back at everything I’ve done and where I started from. Before I turned forty, I didn’t think I was gonna enjoy turning forty, and I thought I’d hate it and start getting depressed about it. But, it was just the opposite. When I turned forty, it was actually a really good thing and that I’m just that kind of wise, old man that sits back and tells the story of how I’ve seen different things back in the day. It’s cool to look back and reflect on all of what I’ve started and had been able to accomplish after all of these years. So, it’s good to look back on it and know that I started recording and putting out music in 1992.”


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